Why do people hate taekwondo

The only way to get used to those techniques as second nature is to spar using them. Well too much liability there for a sustainable business. And ultimately is does come down to how talented the practitioner is and more importantly what they are willing to do in a fighting situation.

Similarly while I train at a at a Gracie lineage Jiujitsu school there are never any punches, kicks, or elbows thrown. In fact most of those schools start sparring from their knees. Yet I see value in it. Everyone has an opinion, Ultimately the only one that counts is that of the person who has to believe that they can actually take care of business with what they have learned.

Maybe accurate for most TKD schools and not for all. I think this guy have the thought of those who come from Europe or America who prefer practicability.

Moreover, TKD for self-defense is far different from what people see in Olympic matches where punches are used frequently. The author me understands perhaps more than you might think as I have the luxury of not being emotionally attached to this recreation anymore.

Good news, nobody asked you to agree with my opinion. But nonetheless, I have one and it is valid. Am I supposed to adhere to some secret code of conduct by never saying a negative thing about martial arts? Sounds like a pretty stupid code to me that borders on cult mentality. I run my schools the traditional way, the hard way no crap, If you learn from a good Master that is a true Martial Artist you will not learn how to kick but you will also learn how to use your hands, lock and self defence.

Taekwondo has the whole package if you are in proper school. Main thing is you must have passion also to learn. Also for those losers that make stupid comments you can talk lets be honest there are great Karate, Hapkido, Taekwondo students out there because they have passion to the ones that bag styles dont.

Pick the right instructor not the colour full school. How would a person new to this field even know good from bad? At this point I have to lean on the organizational head to maintain the quality of their instructors. That having been said I have seen some awful dojangs in that organization but that is to be expected anywhere. Even in my karate travels I saw a few dogs. Taekwondo fighters are the best within Taekwondo rules. Of course they are bad with punches, defensively and offensively.

I could beat Roger Federer in a Badminton match but does he care? At the top levels though, TKD can maintain itself as quite a respectful martial art. You should write for Letterman , or really, anything about martial arts at all.

You see, the world is far too polluted with morons such as yourself that have completely bastardized the view of martial arts, to the point that the world can tolerate other morons opening up McDojos and McDojangs, which in turn, is probably where all of your data comes from. And the people who actually agree with such short-sighted views should also be laughed off as idiots the same as you.

I am 72 years old, married, 4 sons, 10 grandsons. I am physically awkward: 1. I have practised Martial Arts during 20 years.

What did I learn there? I agree that most TKD schools in America are basically a buy-your-belt system. But some local schools teach the traditional styles of taekwondo which is actually worth something. Well idk who u learned tae kwon do from but my instuctor taught us everything from how to use are feet from how to fall, he also very much taught us how to use our hands.

Cause tae kwon do is korean for the kick punch way lol he even taught us ground work as well. Tae Kwon Do pretty much translates as the art of kicking and punching.

Not all clubs are the same. I think it depends on the individual club. For examlpe, my club focuses alot on hand techniques and loads on blocking. Instead, as well as patterns or one-steps and stuff, we train for real life situations.

Instead, we are encouraged to use use our hands and block. Same goes for standards. It really pisses me off when I see 7year olds with Black Belts and it only took them 2 years to get it. At our club it takes an adult about 3 years if they are really commited. I would love to get in the ring with you. No pads no head gear. Just a mouth guard. Please just say when and where and I will fly there tomorrow.

I have had enough phycology classed to know that you have issues. Someone who took Psychology classes!!! How unbelievable rare in this day on mandatory college courses! Hi, I just came across your site, read the article and half of the comments.

Very entertaining and well written : I also agree with you on everything. I have to say that everything he did or taught us seemed extremely accurate and effective, there was absolutely no doubt. The difference from one to the other was vast. The Korean GM had it inside him, it was part of him and he executed in such a way that left the onlooker astounded. In tournaments I loved to counter a kick with a block and a single punch simply because it seemed very logical and fast, no need to move away and kick never did Karate, btw.

I assume he valued the effectiveness. If you want to fight and kill, probably Taekwondo is not an option. Believe it or not, I still feel it has value. The image is also just an example. Many WTF dojangs follow the same practice but thankfully the better clubs restrict that gawdy practice to the kids.

Admittedly you are right though…ATA is the worst of the worst. Few people are. Just watch this…. TKD was originally basic Shotokan Karate which was infused with cultural Korean elements emphasis on high, jumping, flashy kicks so that people do not mistake it for Karate. Hence the oft-mentioned references to local games such as Taekyon and Soobak. What is created is a myth of a true Korean martial arts with deep roots in the culture.

It is not reality, though. This is not limited to TKD, however, Judo is going the same way see recent inclusion of even more limitations in the rules and every Dojo in town is including BJJ classes in its curriculum. People fight as they train; the more one bleeds in training, the less they do in combat. Soldiers live by this rule. TKD teaches to kick with the foot, not the shin, which will get you a broken foot in real life.

There is very little clinch work and ground fighting. If you want to protect yourself then be willing to take hard shots and learn the ground game. Exactly why I said not to train in only one style if u actually read my post. They teach u how to kick with the foot without breaking the foot. Steel toe caps vs. Leg strength 2. Flexability 3. Speed 4. Stamina 5. Learn how to throw a bloody good kick. If u wanna learn ground work then study a wrestling form, if u wanna learn how to punch then your old man shoulda taught u.

Or if u r like me and u never had a dad to teach u then u learned on the street. Mma is good providing its mma rules. I cannot comment on wtf. I study itf and each kick has a purpose whether it is an axe kick to break the clavicle, a front snap kick to push back an opponent or a side piercing kick to slip through defences and break ribs or the throat. They teach me how to kick from different angles and give great leg flexibility and strength.

As for punching they teach us sine wave which produces one hell of a punch I can get the same power from a jab that I would from a hook and without the risk of leaving myself open for counter attack.

You said that you studied karate for 15 years and you like to beat on wtf black belts. You say it takes two years to get a black belt in TKD. My advice is take your son out of whatever wtf school hes in and put him in an itf dojang and u will quickly conciete. Itf tournaments are fought in both continuos point sparring and one hit one point sparring. Like the shaolin monks learn different styles so should we.

If a Shaolin monk spends his life in seclusion learning martial arts then his life is a tragic waste. Life is about God, relationships and family and without those you can rake all the zen-gardens you want.

You really should go back and read that part more carefully before commenting. It was a unique situation where some dork needed a humbling and got what he had long coming to him. Seems nice I suppose. Same reason I hate MMA training…it will cause long term health issues. Better off with Tai Chi if you want to grow old without debilitating arthritis! To you the shaolin monk had wasted his life.

But if what he does brings him peace and happiness then his life was not wasted. U talk of god then u should know better.

How can TKD be useless if it makes your son happy. I actually tried to hash tag it and made a mess of things… much like a helicopter kick gone wrong.

This had made me laugh commenting on a style you obviously have not a lot of knowledge about. I studied bixing, shotokan and wadoryu karate as a youth and now itf taekwondo. Even though called itf there are again many different discplines of this style some good some not so.

At our organisation not only are we taught the tradtional parts of the discpline we are also taught self defence and other facets for street work whcih is far removed from sparring.

Our sparring is designed for point scoring hence no kicks below the belt however we punch a great deal including backfists. No elbows are allowed. In self. In my short time at taekwondo I havr learnt more than I ever learnt at my karate discplines bht they all helped infact the boxing probably helped me the most with dodging and weaving and timing punches controlling breathing. I do not think there is a bad martial art just bad schools so maybe stop slagging off other styles its not a good trait and hardley the honourable thing a devotee of an ART should do.

That moment when in international fights, Karate -always- lose over Taekwondo, which is itself really terribly weak compared to other fighting styles. Also, stop sitting on your blasted caps lock you uneducated Philistine.

I hold the rank of master in TKD and can say with all sincerity that you speak a great deal of truth. I have become somewhat of a heretic in the TKD circles around here do to this, and yet classes were always full when I was teaching.

A huge difference. Who would have thought you can learn how to actually fight in the real world in a martial arts class!? The West for the most part has lost the original intent of the martial arts almost universally regardless of style. It is about making money, wearing fancy uniforms, constantly training to compete in tournaments and not for real life, and decking out the uniform with as many patches as it can possibly hold.

It has me very disallusioned. This is because I trained for years with a Grandmaster and Lineage holder of a kung fu style that taught me to look for the original intent in a martial art regardless of style.

The method for doing so is fairly simple once learned, unfortunately there are few with the patience to actually learn it. But once learned a whole new respect and understanding is opened and the art is shown for what it is truly capable of doing. I think it is a little unnerving to have 10 year old black belts. Lets face it, there is an enormous chasm between regurgitating techniques and forms and rule-guided sparring, and actually using what you know for real world combat.

We live in the real world not a movie. Now that being said they can be taught to use certain techniques to strike certain places to facilitate escape, but the chances of them knocking them out is slim to none.

It may make the child feel good and confident about having a black belt and it may make the parents happy, but martial arts are not about belts and uniforms and trophies!

Lastly, there is too much focus on tournaments and training for them. That takes years to learn to switch over and only comes through excessive purposeful training. The real world has no rules so if you train to fight in a place that has rules, which seems to be the MO of most modern Western martial arts schools, you will revert to a rules based fight in a real world altercation, thus putting you at a disadvantage.

I have seen this first hand on a number of occassions. People are shocked when they find out that you can attack places other than above the belt and in front of the uniform seems, like, dare I say it, the back or the legs. Sorry, I am now done with my rant! Dysfunctional Parrot! I love the fact that your son just joined Taekwon-do ;- hope you signed him up to ITF though. The only clubs around are WTF. The author is right most of the comments about Taekwondo guys.

Not only in TKD but all martial arts. There are very few that still true to its roots. I am 46 and train no just teach 6 days a week and I can guarantee with certainty that I am in better shape and healthier than the author. Anyone who generalizes a topic or public or type of sport is a complete ignorant. There are many kids with ADHD, overweight , low self esteem, adults living a sedentary life , out there who could benefit from Taekwondo, Karate or any other martial arts.

But may just give up the idea after read this absurd article. Okay, first of all this is all exaggerated. The uniform that makes you look more dolled up than a Vegas prostitute is a lie. Every martial art is different, and has different ways in fighting. The art of Taekwondo is its technique of unarmed combat for self defense that involves the skillful application of techniques that include punching, jumping kicks, blocks, dodges, parrying actions with hands and feet.

It is more than a mere physical fighting skill, representing as it does a way of thinking and a pattern of life requiring strict discipline.

That is the art of Taekwondo. The reason I enrolled for Taekwondo lesson is because I want it to be my new hobby and also for exercise, not for self-defense, honestly. In Taekwondo, you are also taught how to block kicks and punches. They think Taekwondo students only know how to kick. Every martial art has a rule, right?

Do you think a Taekwondo student like me will let you punch me and push me? Of course not! I will use my mind, my hand, my foot, my whole body. Really, just common sense people. My own son is in TKD and he likes it so who am I to tell him otherwise? One year as a husband and father taught me more about honor than 15 years in a dojo.

Martial arts are not designed to give ethics training any more than a curling club. After reading this I will disagree in two things,the no hands use and the uniform first at all let I am James lee,ive done taekwondo 6th dan karate 1st dan and learning hopkido I started learning Taekwondo because of my family,my dad. Ive been doing martial arts since i was 5 years old and back in I am already I am thinking about opening an academy but anyway about the problema about the no hands use in Taekwondo yes its truth they dont use it in Kerugi but later on they will teach self defense blocks,crit points,etc wtf style,its all about the academy.

You probably went to a ATA school.. Everyone knows that ATA is rubbish.. Try a different organisation which is ITF and see what you think :. ITF is indeed better and much closer to Shotokan Karate of which I am a 15 year veteran from which it was derived. Its more of a sport than a martial arts to be honest and I completely agree with that. I also used to be in TKD at high school. I wanted the aikido or become an amateur boxer but my parents wont allow or fund me LOL Anyways things were a little different here in the philippines — more serious and cheaper off course.

TKD also studies the complete martial arts part but in a different day — I remember we used to meet, all us adults and just train seriously without the kids. Protective gears suck. A great competition combo if you have a strong punch is to heavily punch the chest that he will feel it through the armor then as you gain the right distance you can now deliver some 45degree kicks and bullet combos to your imbalanced opponent. You bring up an interesting point about kids.

I sometimes wonder what it would take to pull TKD out of the washed-up arts into something viable. Minimum age enrolment perhaps? Hard core Krav maga style sparrings. We used to do that Its like a regular sparring session but its 4 on one.

The 4 are only allowed legal blows but the defender can grapple and can pretty much do any type of blows. Then switch per round. I can not fathom the level of incompetence put into writing this article. TKD is one of the most respected martial arts.

Yes it is remarkably easy to get a black belt these days as long as you have money and time , but that is not real Taekwondo. The flexibilty, power, speed, and stamina required in Taekwondo is much higher than most sports.

Yes, Olympic Sparring is a sport, not a traditional fighting style. However, this does not take away from the credibility of the art. TKD is still combat, and contrary to popular belief, can be implemented quite effectively in a real situation. I have no respect for your harsh statements and their lack of valid support. Next time, have some credibilty before you bag on one of the greatest martial arts ever. Credibility is not my problem, and obtaining your respect is not my goal.

You however seem to have lost any with that ridiculous statement. At least try an bring something intelligent to the conversation.

Clearly you have not been to a good club. Tell you what, we all know TKD is an offshoot of Shotokan karate or at least now you do. So you go to a any shotokan dojo and tell me with a straight face that TKD has better form. Compare the sloppiness of a Poomse to the focus of a kata.

Compare the wild TKD kicks that always miss their target to the cat like single strikes of kumite. Cecil Ryu Martial Arts. I had to club hop due to financial and life reasons. General Choi was a nidan in Shotokan. Original TKD was a hodge podge of various martial arts. The public wants cool kicks, kid black belts, fancy associations, high-sounding titles and Olympic status.

If you are not offereing that, some people will wonder what is wrong with you. That actually brings up a very good point…for an art to be financially viable does it have to reduce itself to meet the common consumer?

This is probably why karate is a superior art in terms of form, accuracy and strength: The clubs are usually non-profit. TKD is a revolving door but a profitable revolving door nonetheless. I can say being a practitioner of tkd that alot of this guy is saying have some valid points. Real TKD as taught in korea is pretty harsh. Tkd has awesome foot work if learned properly. Bruce lee trained in various martial art and never put down any for whatever reason. But there are still great practitioners in ATA.

Schools give kids black belts beacuse of the parents reall tkd school give you a poom belt half red half black that is technically a black belt but you do not get full black till the age of I have studied the art of Taekwondo for over 15 years and I must say some of what you say may be true for some schools but not for all. Unfortunately there are many money hungry people that care not for their students but only for their wallets, and suck at teaching, and do not even have certification themselves, unfortunately it comes down to being a business.

But for those who truly study the art, and have good instruction as I have, then you would have no problem using either your hands or feet. I do not ridicule other martial arts or boxing, but I have seen other styles come into my school and quit because TKD was too hard for them, Just as I have seen TKD people quit other styles. It depends on the instruction, practice, and passion of the instructor, and if they are truly traditional, than any TKD student would have knowledge and balance when it comes to either their feet or hands.

Thank you, have a good day! As a longtime karate practitioner, I spent considerable time getting punches right. Truly traditional TKD ie: traditional karate is so rare that it is simply not worth considering for the purpose of an article which I freely admit is generalizing the martial art. Exceptions always exist but the majority still rules. Otherwise my own son would not be in TKD. The sport aspect is fun, but a warrior it does not make,.

The Filipino Martial Arts and Silat are the only real martial arts left. Everything else is a joke. Ryan J. Got the black belt, stopped going, and took up boxing for the next 10 years. I learned more in boxing 6 months than all my TKD. Any art that teaches you to throw punches from your HIP??? Me go TKD and son like go.

He no go fighters but like and fun have. Master is firm and son makes good go spar. Son make friendly and have goods time. Maybe get older try different style and good foundation have from TKD.

Not useless, good workout and make good for confidence. Tarzan no me. Just liking to make watch son go TKD. Me have like son make friendly with others in class. TKD teach him protect self and also do gooder life. I no like you talk down me. Additionally, you can always call us, we would love to chat with you about what we do, and if our Gold Coast taekwondo classes would be a great fit for you and your family!

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It certainly sends out all the wrong messages about respect for people with more experience. It's almost like saying that "unless you fight like I do, you can't be doing it right".

Ikken Hisatsu , Mar 31, I've seen people who are very good do it in years. Are you serious that you can get one in just 6 months? Slindsay , Apr 1, I think that is the reason so many ppl do not like TKD beacuse you rank up Somtimes so fast and most other MA's dont think they know what thay are doing.. But it sounds liek a good shchool Last edited: Apr 1, Kyu , Apr 1, Sounds like a good school, I,d stay put If I were you.

Trinity , Apr 1, Not as useful as more self-defence focused martial arts , I would say, but still better than nothing. But, in some places, it is still used as a combat sport, and you will see that it is still as dangerous as before. For those interested in learning fast and more elaborate kicking moves, taekwondo is the better option.

A good way to find out which martial arts style is best for you is to try taking beginner classes in both disciplines. Getty The Korean fighting style known as Taekwondo is possibly the most popular martial art in the world.